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	<title>Comments on: Streams, affordances, Facebook, and rounding errors</title>
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		<title>By: a work on process &#187; Selected (belated, extended) Saturday Links</title>
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		<dc:creator>a work on process &#187; Selected (belated, extended) Saturday Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Streams, affordances, Facebook, and rounding errors - Laughing Meme [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Mark Swanborough</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2009/03/18/streams-affordances-facebook-and-rounding-errors/comment-page-1/#comment-716747</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Swanborough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What interests me is, does this lead to less click through to User pages to see what Fred, Jill and Jane are doing?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d have thought not only are they increasing the problems they have in delivering this feed, but they&#039;ve also cut down on click throughs? I see less information about my groups - I used to waste many minutes... now... almost forgot they exist!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What interests me is, does this lead to less click through to User pages to see what Fred, Jill and Jane are doing?</p>

<p>I&#8217;d have thought not only are they increasing the problems they have in delivering this feed, but they&#8217;ve also cut down on click throughs? I see less information about my groups &#8211; I used to waste many minutes&#8230; now&#8230; almost forgot they exist!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gavin Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Kellan, &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well argued post, I too miss the with_others page, but it was a hard promise to keep. One of the arguments I heard in favour of the throw away nature of the previous facebook status page was that it gave comfort in plausible deniability. People could justifiably say &quot;no, I didn&#039;t see your update&quot;, though now volume for many people deals with that conveniently, be it Twitter or Friendfeed. Flickr in fact has always had this, as the recent from contacts will only show you a maximum of five pictures or only one. It is a healthy thing allowing for social space in relationships. I can understand why there is such a strong reaction to the new FB, it feels a bit overbearing.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kellan, </p>

<p>Well argued post, I too miss the with_others page, but it was a hard promise to keep. One of the arguments I heard in favour of the throw away nature of the previous facebook status page was that it gave comfort in plausible deniability. People could justifiably say &#8220;no, I didn&#8217;t see your update&#8221;, though now volume for many people deals with that conveniently, be it Twitter or Friendfeed. Flickr in fact has always had this, as the recent from contacts will only show you a maximum of five pictures or only one. It is a healthy thing allowing for social space in relationships. I can understand why there is such a strong reaction to the new FB, it feels a bit overbearing.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: My Continuing Adventures in Technology&#8230; &#187; links for 2009-03-19</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2009/03/18/streams-affordances-facebook-and-rounding-errors/comment-page-1/#comment-716204</link>
		<dc:creator>My Continuing Adventures in Technology&#8230; &#187; links for 2009-03-19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Streams, affordances, Facebook, and rounding errors - Laughing Meme (tags: development web design technology ux strategy architecture messaging scaling) [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The question is: why did Facebook move toward the comprehensive status feed? I suspect the reason is that they noticed people were using the &#039;Status Updates&#039; panel of their homepage more often, and conducting conversations with their friends in this way. They want to encourage people to use their service more and more, and by offering a comprehensive feed they are giving a subset of their users what they want (or what they didn&#039;t know they wanted).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One thing that saves them a bit of hassle is that conversations on a particular topic are often confined to the comments of a status update. That&#039;s one, easily cached, blob of data visible to anyone who can see that person. In Twitter&#039;s case a person only sees the parts of the conversation they&#039;re subscribed to, requiring the assembling of several bits of data.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The premise of your post - that the comprehensive single-user perspective feed is inherently unscalable - is debatable. It&#039;s difficult, yes, but clearly Facebook have found a way to do it. Would they (COULD they) have deployed it if they hadn&#039;t figured it out? They have so many users now that they have to get it right or it just won&#039;t work. The fact that their new homepage is up and running shows they&#039;ve cracked this issue, putting them technologically ahead of much of their competition.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That said, I have quit using Twitter and Facebook recently due to concerns about the nature of these micro-conversations, and their psychological effects. (I&#039;m preparing a post on this, so I won&#039;t go on about it here.)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is: why did Facebook move toward the comprehensive status feed? I suspect the reason is that they noticed people were using the &#8216;Status Updates&#8217; panel of their homepage more often, and conducting conversations with their friends in this way. They want to encourage people to use their service more and more, and by offering a comprehensive feed they are giving a subset of their users what they want (or what they didn&#8217;t know they wanted).</p>

<p>One thing that saves them a bit of hassle is that conversations on a particular topic are often confined to the comments of a status update. That&#8217;s one, easily cached, blob of data visible to anyone who can see that person. In Twitter&#8217;s case a person only sees the parts of the conversation they&#8217;re subscribed to, requiring the assembling of several bits of data.</p>

<p>The premise of your post &#8211; that the comprehensive single-user perspective feed is inherently unscalable &#8211; is debatable. It&#8217;s difficult, yes, but clearly Facebook have found a way to do it. Would they (COULD they) have deployed it if they hadn&#8217;t figured it out? They have so many users now that they have to get it right or it just won&#8217;t work. The fact that their new homepage is up and running shows they&#8217;ve cracked this issue, putting them technologically ahead of much of their competition.</p>

<p>That said, I have quit using Twitter and Facebook recently due to concerns about the nature of these micro-conversations, and their psychological effects. (I&#8217;m preparing a post on this, so I won&#8217;t go on about it here.)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That has to be one of the smartest post I&#039;ve read in months. Thanks for making it obvious that almost every feature has to be carefully planned &amp; thought out.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That has to be one of the smartest post I&#8217;ve read in months. Thanks for making it obvious that almost every feature has to be carefully planned &amp; thought out.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: shanan</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2009/03/18/streams-affordances-facebook-and-rounding-errors/comment-page-1/#comment-713712</link>
		<dc:creator>shanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks for posting this. You tell some background, set the tone and deliver the climax at the very end :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for posting this. You tell some background, set the tone and deliver the climax at the very end <img src='http://laughingmeme.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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