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		<title>By: In the beginning were lists &#124; otrops</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2009/10/16/twitter-lists-creators-vs-curators-and-who-owns-the-meta-data/comment-page-1/#comment-799689</link>
		<dc:creator>In the beginning were lists &#124; otrops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] the rest of this interview makes me wonder if there is really a clear distinction between curation and creation or whether the two are inextricably linked. I strongly suspect that behind every act of creation [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: links for 2009-11-07</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-11-07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Twitter lists, creators vs curators, and who owns the meta-data? (Laughing Meme) [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Buzz Andersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzz Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I already know people who have been added to lists of company employees when they would prefer not to have their online identity closely associated with their work.  It&#039;s a definite problem.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already know people who have been added to lists of company employees when they would prefer not to have their online identity closely associated with their work.  It&#8217;s a definite problem.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Max Design - standards based web design, development and training &#187; Some links for light reading (3/11/09)</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2009/10/16/twitter-lists-creators-vs-curators-and-who-owns-the-meta-data/comment-page-1/#comment-797652</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Design - standards based web design, development and training &#187; Some links for light reading (3/11/09)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Twitter lists, creators vs curators, and who owns the meta-data? [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: salaud</title>
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		<dc:creator>salaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It could be that re-mix and compilation (&quot;curation&quot; – negative connotation) is a very important creative aspect on the internet for a lot of people.  I will argue that creation of original content is the BEST result, but not the only one that is important.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be that re-mix and compilation (&#8220;curation&#8221; – negative connotation) is a very important creative aspect on the internet for a lot of people.  I will argue that creation of original content is the BEST result, but not the only one that is important.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: xian</title>
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		<dc:creator>xian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;this also raises the question of to what extent adding someone to a list is like following them (when you&#039;re not following them, that is) and to what extent it&#039;s different. can that person direct message you? the weird rules on displaying mentions interact with lists how exactly?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this also raises the question of to what extent adding someone to a list is like following them (when you&#8217;re not following them, that is) and to what extent it&#8217;s different. can that person direct message you? the weird rules on displaying mentions interact with lists how exactly?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Lachlan Hardy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lachlan Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m with you on the surprise at curatorial over creator-based. I just got the feature to discover that I was already on lists made by other people.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Firstly, I hate that I didn&#039;t know that. I can understand the logic behind rolling out that way, but it makes me very uncomfortable that there were interactions involving me without any way of making that known to me in the interface. Bad juju.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Secondly, I want a way to remove myself without blocking the list author. I&#039;ve been &#039;bouncing&#039; followers for years now - blocking then unblocking again - but that doesn&#039;t have the same effect. I may be perfectly happy to have someone follow me but not want to be on one of their lists (or any of their lists).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On a positive note, I guess I&#039;m intrigued that this may mean I can stop inflating my Following numbers with my obsessive following of staff members from Twitter itself. (but only if it allows me to see their replies to the ones I&#039;m not following - which I&#039;d guess it doesn&#039;t)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on the surprise at curatorial over creator-based. I just got the feature to discover that I was already on lists made by other people.</p>

<p>Firstly, I hate that I didn&#8217;t know that. I can understand the logic behind rolling out that way, but it makes me very uncomfortable that there were interactions involving me without any way of making that known to me in the interface. Bad juju.</p>

<p>Secondly, I want a way to remove myself without blocking the list author. I&#8217;ve been &#8216;bouncing&#8217; followers for years now &#8211; blocking then unblocking again &#8211; but that doesn&#8217;t have the same effect. I may be perfectly happy to have someone follow me but not want to be on one of their lists (or any of their lists).</p>

<p>On a positive note, I guess I&#8217;m intrigued that this may mean I can stop inflating my Following numbers with my obsessive following of staff members from Twitter itself. (but only if it allows me to see their replies to the ones I&#8217;m not following &#8211; which I&#8217;d guess it doesn&#8217;t)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Adele McAlear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adele McAlear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 02:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You raised some good questions about Twitter lists. From my understanding, you can&#039;t add  blocked people - but please let me know if I got that wrong. Rod&#039;s idea about seeing the timeline through someone else&#039;s eyes is very interesting. Yes, I miss that feature too. Thank you for the example of the mornic lists already being made. I wonder if the creators of that list realize that the people they&#039;d like to bang will see they&#039;ve been placed on that list when that feature becomes public. Then again, if it&#039;s a celebrity they may not care, nor bother to check which lists they&#039;re on.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for a thought provoking post.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You raised some good questions about Twitter lists. From my understanding, you can&#8217;t add  blocked people &#8211; but please let me know if I got that wrong. Rod&#8217;s idea about seeing the timeline through someone else&#8217;s eyes is very interesting. Yes, I miss that feature too. Thank you for the example of the mornic lists already being made. I wonder if the creators of that list realize that the people they&#8217;d like to bang will see they&#8217;ve been placed on that list when that feature becomes public. Then again, if it&#8217;s a celebrity they may not care, nor bother to check which lists they&#8217;re on.</p>

<p>Thanks for a thought provoking post.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kellan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ooh, that is a neat idea.  The &quot;SoAndSo in context&quot; was great.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now you got me wondering if you can add folks to a list who&#039;ve blocked you.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, that is a neat idea.  The &#8220;SoAndSo in context&#8221; was great.</p>

<p>Now you got me wondering if you can add folks to a list who&#8217;ve blocked you.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rod Begbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod Begbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ooh... random thought: If user add all the people they&#039;re following to a list, we can emulate the old &quot;See someone else&#039;s Twitter timeline&quot; feature that got removed and was so fun.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh&#8230; random thought: If user add all the people they&#8217;re following to a list, we can emulate the old &#8220;See someone else&#8217;s Twitter timeline&#8221; feature that got removed and was so fun.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rod Begbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod Begbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;An interesting design decision that I misunderstood with the initial announcement: You don&#039;t have to follow someone to add them to a list.  eg. http://twitter.com/RodBegbie/bozo-bit-set&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So a list is not, as I first thought, &quot;Here&#039;s a subset of my timeline&quot;, but rather &quot;Here&#039;s a completely different timeline, which may or may not intersect with my regular one&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting design decision that I misunderstood with the initial announcement: You don&#8217;t have to follow someone to add them to a list.  eg. <a href="http://twitter.com/RodBegbie/bozo-bit-set" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/RodBegbie/bozo-bit-set</a></p>

<p>So a list is not, as I first thought, &#8220;Here&#8217;s a subset of my timeline&#8221;, but rather &#8220;Here&#8217;s a completely different timeline, which may or may not intersect with my regular one&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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