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	<title>Comments on: 4294967295 and MySQL INT(20) Syntax Blows</title>
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		<title>By: unska</title>
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		<dc:creator>unska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 07:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Howcome you didn&#039;t use BIGINT? Wouldn&#039;t that helped you in the first place?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howcome you didn&#8217;t use BIGINT? Wouldn&#8217;t that helped you in the first place?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ennuyer.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rails Reading January 26 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ennuyer.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rails Reading January 26 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A quote from Kellan Elliott-McCrea &#124; BlogHalt.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>A quote from Kellan Elliott-McCrea &#124; BlogHalt.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Richard Crowley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Crowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What do folks honestly think the 11 in int(11) means?  I&#039;ve long since stopped using that notation, simply saying int, int unsigned, bigint unsigned, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do folks honestly think the 11 in int(11) means?  I&#8217;ve long since stopped using that notation, simply saying int, int unsigned, bigint unsigned, etc.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kellan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Mark I&#039;m excited!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@Charles well then you&#039;ll just have to take my word for it won&#039;t you?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark I&#8217;m excited!</p>

<p>@Charles well then you&#8217;ll just have to take my word for it won&#8217;t you?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Funny thing is, when I told this story to folks last week, this caught them by surprise. Sophisticated engineers, some of whom had deployed quite large MySQL backed sites.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d question the sophisticatedness of any developer that hasn&#039;t read the MySQL manual pages on numeric types, in which the maximum storage size of each numeric type is laid out: 
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/numeric-type-overview.html&lt;/p&gt;
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  <p>Funny thing is, when I told this story to folks last week, this caught them by surprise. Sophisticated engineers, some of whom had deployed quite large MySQL backed sites.</p>
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<p>I&#8217;d question the sophisticatedness of any developer that hasn&#8217;t read the MySQL manual pages on numeric types, in which the maximum storage size of each numeric type is laid out: 
<a href="http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/numeric-type-overview.html" rel="nofollow">http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/numeric-type-overview.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark Atwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Atwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The DrizzleDB fork of MySQL addresses this issue in a couple of different ways.  One, the 24bit INT has been removed.  Don&#039;t use it, even in MySQL.  It&#039;s dumb, and it&#039;s slow, and the code that implements it is a crawling horror.  Two, display sizes have been removed.  Display hints are something that the application or presentation layers should worry about, not the database server.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DrizzleDB fork of MySQL addresses this issue in a couple of different ways.  One, the 24bit INT has been removed.  Don&#8217;t use it, even in MySQL.  It&#8217;s dumb, and it&#8217;s slow, and the code that implements it is a crawling horror.  Two, display sizes have been removed.  Display hints are something that the application or presentation layers should worry about, not the database server.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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