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		<title>Flickr tag: &#8220;soshirkyithurts&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2008/05/07/sh-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 08:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[clay shirky]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Best tag ever?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best tag ever?</p>
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		<title>Is there any living, breathing example of a taxonomic approach working?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scaling to keep-up with the hyper-efficiency we see in peer-production systems? Anyone?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scaling to keep-up with the hyper-efficiency we see in peer-production systems?   Anyone?</p>
<p><a href='http://blogs.lib.ncsu.edu/page/hightouch?entry=taxonomies_vs_folksonomies'>http://blogs.lib.ncsu.edu/page/hightouch?entry=taxonomies_vs_folksonomies</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Slashdot on &#8220;folksonomies&#8221;.  Got to love the comments.</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2005/01/24/slashdot-on-folksonomies-got-to-love-the-comments/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8216;Now I know what the [non-techie] in my life feels like when they read slashdot&#8217;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Now I know what the [non-techie] in my life feels like when they read slashdot&#8217;</p>
<p><a href='http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/04/0117245'>http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/04/0117245</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>del.icio.us/tag/antifolksonomy</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2005/01/24/delicioustagantifolksonomy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tags are currently good at personal knowledge creation, and people are instead trying to use them as advertising]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tags are currently good at personal knowledge creation, and people are instead trying to use them as advertising</p>
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		<title>buzzword watch: Epistemological gangs</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2005/01/16/buzzword-watch-epistemological-gangs/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roaming gangs of librarians go &#8216;wilding&#8217;, tagging everything in site.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roaming gangs of librarians go &#8216;wilding&#8217;, tagging everything in site.</p>
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		<title>Linguistic convergence?</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2003/02/01/linguistic-convergence/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2003 18:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve noticed an odd phenomena. When searching Google I consistently see results from projects I&#8217;m involved in, people I know, and of course, myself. A certain percentage of this can be written off to specialized interests. The overwhelming amount of search results I get which point to IMC archives is understandable, for example. What I [...]]]></description>
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I&#8217;ve noticed an odd phenomena.  When searching Google I consistently see results from projects I&#8217;m involved in, people I know, and of course, myself.
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A certain percentage of this can be written off to specialized interests.  The overwhelming amount of search results I get which point to IMC archives is understandable, for example.
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What I don&#8217;t understand is why a relatively generic query like &#8220;tar over ssh&#8221;, would return 
<a href="http://lists.fivecolleges.net/pipermail/fclug/2001-June/001307.html">a message</a> from the 
<a href="http://lug.hampshire.edu/">LUG</a> at my alma matter(which didn&#8217;t exist when I went there), in a thread between 2 people I know well.  Thats just odd.  And this happens a lot.  I&#8217;m going to start keeping track, but it happens all the time. (note: I&#8217;ve probably destroyed Google&#8217;s usefulness for searching for &#8220;tar over ssh&#8221; now by mentioning it)
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I don&#8217;t know that many people, a very small number in fact, and even if they all produce content hyperactively, shouldn&#8217;t they be drowned out in a sea content?  Whats going on?
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My thought is perhaps we&#8217;re seeing the effect of Google having a language based interface.  I search in English, and therefore I&#8217;m much more likely to get English results back.  Most of the people I know speak English.  On the Net however this doesn&#8217;t proscribe the field much.  I think perhaps it needs to be broken down beyond that, I don&#8217;t just speak English, I speak a vernacular informed by age, class, education, social environment, etc.  My word choices are a product of culture.  For example Mako and Josiah from the above thread have both had significant impacts on the Linux culture I was raised in.  Could even my 3 word query display a language bias?  If I was a product of a different linguistic micro-culture would I have said &#8220;pipe&#8221; instead of &#8220;over&#8221;, asked for &#8220;remote&#8221; instead of &#8220;ssh&#8221;, re-ordered the terms?
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And if perhaps Google was a taxonomy engine, building a search tree of structured data, and my queries were made in a precise, perhaps numerical, language, then would this convergence disappear?  Would it work nearly as well then?  A response from my culture after all brings a number of advantages, no one suggested using a tape drive instead, or buying F-Secure.
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<h3>Some Other Possibilities.</h3>
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<li>
<a href="http://sedesdraconis.com">Aidan</a> is fast to point out humans are expert pattern makers, and inclined to see patterns where none (of significance) exist.  Perhaps I only notice the occurrence when something unusual happens, and this convergence is a false pattern?
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That for all the millions of internet users, content is created by a mind blowingly small percentage.  That a given individual really can know a statistically significant percentage of the population.
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