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		<title>Notes from Social Graph Foo</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2008/02/04/notes-from-social-graph-foo/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is my quick dump of the notebook, probably useful to no one but me. Names mostly removed to protect the guilty. I think &#8220;Social Graph&#8221; is kind of a dumb phrase to apply to the back question of relationships. I promptly re-dubbed the event &#8220;Social Foo&#8221; and thereby found interesting things to talk about. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my quick dump of the notebook, probably useful to no one but me.  Names mostly removed to protect the guilty.</p>

<p>I think &#8220;Social Graph&#8221; is kind of a dumb phrase to apply to the back question of relationships.  I promptly re-dubbed the event &#8220;Social Foo&#8221; and thereby found interesting things to talk about.  Kevin Marks proposed &#8220;social cloud&#8221;, clouds hide details.  (operations people get hives when you talk about clouds)</p>

<p>XMPP, OpenID, OAuth are all going to be huge in 2008; DiSo, DataPortability, and Social Graph API aren&#8217;t as clear winners to me.</p>

<p>&#8220;<em>Bowling Alone</em> misses the point.  There has been a transformative change from groups to networks.  Groups are just a funny form of network.&#8221;</p>

<p>&#8220;Differentiated role networks&#8221;.  Differentiated roles, and the failure of monolithic identity and friending were one of the things I went to Sebastopol to talk about this weekend, the people who got it got it, and everyone else wasn&#8217;t interested in the hard squishy details of real community.  I think this might be the side effect of running social software for social softwares sake vs social software as bath for social media object sharing.</p>

<p>&#8220;Relationships can be broken down into 5 types:  emotional aid, sociality, major help, minor help, and $$$&#8221;</p>

<p>Note to self: try block modeling interactions in high profile/high turn Flickr groups. (central, utata, etc)</p>

<p>No one really understands user expectations.  Privacy expectation is currently, &#8220;unstable&#8221;.</p>

<p>Huge conceptual issues with the difference between public information hand aggregated, and public information computer aggregated.  Cognitive dissonance ensues.</p>

<p>Rules, games, and rulesets.  Modeling of social software as games.  Tension of implicit vs. explicit rules.  Mag.nol.ia&#8217;s altruism game derived from the cracks board (witnessing altruistic acts is a public good, way to update the Mag rules of game to support this?), Satisfaction&#8217;s status update game.  Hoping Teresa can bring the quality gaming to BoingBoing&#8217;s anemic community.  Social games + adversting. </p>

<p>Parody/pastiche as lit analysis.  Investigate for web.</p>

<p>Social networks need NPCs.  e.g. the Instructables Robot.</p>

<p>Standards works should be done in small groups, with a clear need, that selectively grow the list of participants.  No hierarchy of early/late joiners (aka OAuth did it right)</p>

<p>&#8220;Everything public&#8221; bores me.</p>

<p>Beyond LAMP.</p>

<p>Find a feed for Nathan Eagle&#8217;s research.</p>

<p><insert diagram: How to build XMPP components></p>

<p>&#8220;locations rights management&#8221; </p>

<p>&#8220;trusts are largely not transitive&#8221; </p>

<p>Language communities are &#8220;small world networks&#8221;, partitions communities by language.  2-5 hops vs 8 in analyzed network.</p>

<p>The Plaxo way: &#8220;We gets ze data Lebowski&#8221;</p>

<p>&#8220;Twitter is my early warning system.  My blood pressure has gone down over the last 18 months&#8221;</p>

<p>Identity and sharing can make everyone warm and fuzzy, but also came face to face with sobering consequences that kept me up at night with a bottle of tequila.  Re-thinking proposed Flickr features.</p>
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		<title>Barcamp East:  In New York Next Weekend</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2006/01/08/barcamp-east-in-new-york-next-weekend/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[BarCamp NYC is next weekend, and with it the East Coast gets its inaugral un-conference. (FooCamp, BarCamp, and MindCamp all being West Coast affairs, and Amsterdam being spiritually closer to the West Coast then anywhere on the Atlantic Seaboard I&#8217;m thinking) Registration is open, attendance is free, accomodation is urban camping. Also if anyone has [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://barcamp.org/index.cgi?BarCampNYC">BarCamp NYC</a> is next weekend, and with it the East Coast gets its inaugral un-conference. (<a href="http://wiki.oreillynet.com/foocamp05/index.cgi">FooCamp</a>, <a href="http://barcamp.org/index.cgi?BarCampPaloAlto2005">BarCamp</a>, and <a href="http://seattlemind.com/">MindCamp</a> all being West Coast affairs, and <a href="http://barcamp.org/index.cgi?BarCampAmsterdam">Amsterdam</a> being spiritually closer to the West Coast then anywhere on the Atlantic Seaboard I&#8217;m thinking)</p>

<p>Registration is open, attendance is free, accomodation is urban camping.</p>

<p>Also if anyone has a suggestion for a talk for me to give, I&#8217;m coming up blank, I&#8217;ve handed out a number of excellent (IMHO) suggestions to others, but not feeling the inspiration personally.</p>
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		<title>Report Back: FOO Camp</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2005/08/28/report-back-foo-camp/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Foo Camp report back is a little late coming I know, but a few quick scribbles (if I had more time, I&#8217;d write less). A great time was obviously had by all, except for the handful of souls who were too cool for it. I was not among those, self proclaimed web fanboi that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Foo Camp report back is a little late coming I know, but a few quick scribbles (if I had more time, I&#8217;d write less).</p>

<p>A great time was obviously had by all, except for the handful of souls who were too cool for it.  I was not among those, self proclaimed web fanboi that I am.  To the extent I had no agenda for the weekend it was a wild success, to the extent it could have been even better, I&#8217;ve got a few thoughts.</p>

<h3>Squid Labs</h3>

<p><a href="http://www.squid-labs.com/">Squid Labs</a> are my new heroes, its one things to do inscrutable and mind altering hardware hacks, its another to incorporate training, and knowledge sharing for all ages as a core component.  <a href="http://www.instructables.com/">Instructables</a> is an awesome attempt to open source knowledge, while <a href="http://www.howtoons.org/">Howtoons</a> are just brilliant.  The work by Saul Griffith, on self-replicating machines made me wish my math was better, a hard feat.  The reality enhancing devices had more of an &#8220;oh wow&#8221; factor, but what really sealed it for me, is they all travelled up in a modded school bus, full chopped up bikes.</p>

<h3>Microformats</h3>

<p>I felt like I saw early potential in <a href="http://microformats.org/">microformats</a>, and yet am also sort of late to the koolaid drinking party.  The best definition I ever heard of artificial intelligence is that <strong>AI is the technology that is perpetually 10 years away,</strong> in the sense that once a problem domain has been solved (I believe the germane example at the time was computer vision) it is no longer considered AI.  I wonder if the <strong>Semantic Web is a similar movable feast, and microformats are one of the first spin-offs.</strong> </p>

<p>I was impressed by <a href="http://tantek.com/">Tantek</a> and the other folks I met working on microformats in that they deeply understand the power of reuse, and more importantly understand that the social hack they&#8217;re pulling off is significantly more difficult then the technical one, and more important.  That community/communication focus makes me think microformats will be a winner, and hCalendar is certainly the first standard I&#8217;ve ever seen that could enable a simple &#8220;add this to my calendar&#8221; technology.</p>

<h3>When 2.0</h3>

<p>Saturday morning we did a mini-calendaring track.  <a href="http://www.radwin.org/michael/blog/">Michael Radwin</a>, <a href="http://www.trachtenberg.com/blog/">Adam Trachtenberg</a>, <a href="http://www.wall.org/~larry/">Larry Wall</a>, <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/ozzie/default.mspx">Ray Ozzie</a> and I spent an hour riffing on timezones, leap seconds, and the dismal state of calendaring libraries.  (It was also noted that the <a href="http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm">Olson database</a> might have a &#8220;Postel problem&#8221;, in that it is unspecified what happens when the maintainer dies)</p>

<p>We were joined by <a href="http://waxy.org">Andy Baio</a> (<a href="http://upcoming.org">Upcoming</a>), <a href="http://www.brianstorms.com/">Brian Dear</a> (<a href="http://evdb.com">EVDB</a>), <a href="http://www.fsck.com/">Jesse Vincent</a> (<a href="http://reefknot.sourceforge.net/">Reefknot</a>, <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~jesse/Data-ICal-0.03/">Data::Ical</a>), and others for what I think will be an interesting ongoing conversation about the future of calendaring.</p>

<p>What take away was of the morning session was that it would be simple, and very easy to build a RESTful web service access to the <a href="http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm">Olson DB</a>, keyed by region, lat/long, street address and the desired date.  You could even support 304s as all the various change information is captured in the timezone files.  Personally I&#8217;d also like some way of surfacing the rich, and eccentric commentary also contained in the files.</p>

<p>Other hilights were <a href="http://www.ambiguous.org/quinn/">Quinn&#8217;s</a> functional body mods talk (scary cool, get her to give you this talk), the <a href="http://anarchogeek.com/articles/2005/08/25/build-your-own-linux-gsm-cellphone">potential of seriously messing with the mobile carriers</a>, meeting a bunch of virtual friends/heroes <acronym title="In Real Life">IRL</acronym>, <a href="http://wingedpig.com/">Mark Fletcher&#8217;s</a> talk on Bloglines&#8217; crawling architecture, Segways, ice cream sundaes, free books, and generally incredibly high level of articulate, communicative geeks.</p>

<h3>Self Organizing Technologies (for Humans)</h3>

<p><a href="http://www.squid-labs.com/people/saul.html">Saul&#8217;s</a> presentation on teaching machines to self organize was brilliant, and yet, to me, ironic.  By sitting there learning about his work, I was missing half a dozen other sessions I would have killed to be in.  FOO Camp is billed as a &#8220;self organizing&#8221; event, and to the extent that O&#8217;Reilly does a good job of providing people, space, food, and something like a rough skeleton it, this is true.  But the techniques it used, could use an upgrade, it was very much <strong>&#8220;Self Organizing 1.0&#8243;</strong></p>

<p>But not all self organizing is a like.  Burned into my mind is the rugby scrum the first night, as 200 geeks pressed into a small space, trying to desperately scrawl and juggle their ideas across the grid.    Many events that shouldn&#8217;t have been scheduled against each other were, and if you weren&#8217;t willing to push, and kick shins, then you didn&#8217;t have much say in when you&#8217;re session would be scheduled for.  <strong>This is the kind of thing that gives anarchy a bad name.</strong></p>

<p>I&#8217;ve seen it work better, any number of communities have better techniques, and groups like Aspiration and Blue Oxen are in the business of organizing self-organizing events.  If I were to lead a session next year it would on <strong>&#8220;Self Organizing Technologies for Humans&#8221;</strong>.</p>

<p>Other report backs</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/">David Weinberger</a> did a <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/foo05">great job of reporting on Foocamp</a>, unfortunately he doesn&#8217;t have category archives, so I&#8217;m linking to his stuff via Technorati. (anyone know if there is a way to see limit viewing tagged items by website on Technorati?)</li>
<li>Check out the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/foocamp05/">foocamp05 Flickr stream</a>, <a href="http://olivepress.blogspot.com/">Brian Sawyer</a> was a <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/olivepress/">good early uploader</a></li>
</ul>

<p>On the wiki</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://wiki.oreillynet.com/foocamp05/index.cgi?FooReview">FooReview</a> &#8211; manual trackbacks</li>
<li><a href="http://wiki.oreillynet.com/foocamp05/index.cgi?SlidesAndStuff">SlidesAndStuff</a></li>
</ul>
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		<title>WEREWOLFcamp 2006</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2005/08/22/werewolfcamp-2006/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 18:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You would have lynched her as well, I swear!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would have lynched her as well, I swear!</p>
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		<title>Werewolf is fun.</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2005/08/21/werewolf-is-fun/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Werewolf until 2am, under the near full moon, and with a fresh jug of moonshine is better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Werewolf until 2am, under the near full moon, and with a fresh jug of moonshine is better.</p>
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		<title>Planet Foo Camp</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2005 04:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<title>Non-scalable introduction ceremonies</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2005/08/20/non-scalable-introduction-ceremonies/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One guess on who was &#8216;Internet crack dealer&#8217;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One guess on who was &#8216;Internet crack dealer&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Laptops, and Sleeping Bags in Sebastopol</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2005/08/19/laptops-and-sleeping-bags-in-sebastopol/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heading up to Sebastopol in a few hours with the Odeo contingent, be back Sunday evening, in time to do some prep for Extreme Usability on Monday. Interestingly I first met the wonderful/crazy folks behind Extreme Usability (and many of my close friends and colleagues), at Ruckus&#8217; TechToolbox, a (radical) geek camp out, hosted in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heading up to Sebastopol in a few hours with the Odeo contingent, be back Sunday evening, in time to do some prep for <a href="http://www.flossusability.org/">Extreme Usability</a> on Monday.</p>

<p>Interestingly I first met the wonderful/crazy folks behind <a href="http://www.flossusability.org/">Extreme Usability</a> (and many of my close friends and colleagues), at <a href="http://ruckus.org/index.php">Ruckus&#8217;</a> TechToolbox, a (radical) geek camp out, hosted in Sebastapol, a little over 3 years ago, less then 20 miles from the <a href="http://ora.com">O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s</a> campus.  </p>

<p>Clearly the spiritual progenitor of FooCamp <img src='http://laughingmeme.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p><em>update:</em> Some notes to come soon, but first <a href="http://www.flossusability.org/">FLOSS</a>.  In the mean time, check out the <a href="http://www.superblog.org/planet/foocamp2005/">Foocamp aggregator</a></p>
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