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		<title>jargon watch: dog whistle politics</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2006/09/28/jargon-watch-dog-whistle-politics/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why bother with Lakoffian framing when you&#8217;ve got a secret language?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why bother with Lakoffian framing when you&#8217;ve got a secret language?</p>
<p><a href='http://agonist.org/ian_welsh/20060925/just_a_comma_dog_whistle_politics'>http://agonist.org/ian_welsh/20060925/just_a_comma_dog_whistle_politics</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Bi-Lingual Weddings</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2006/06/12/bi-lingual-weddings/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last 4 weddings I&#8217;ve attended have all been bi-lingual, and they&#8217;ve all featured a different language (with English being a common thread in all of them). The modern condition I guess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last 4 weddings I&#8217;ve attended have all been bi-lingual, and they&#8217;ve all featured a different language (with English being a common thread in all of them).   </p>

<p>The modern condition I guess.</p>
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		<title>Google is matching &#8216;vegtables&#8217; on a search for &#8216;vegetarian&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2006/03/10/google-is-matching-vegtables-on-a-search-for-vegetarian/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problems with stemming. Results start with &#8216;Simply dice the meat and vegetables&#8230;&#8217;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problems with stemming.  Results start with &#8216;Simply dice the meat and vegetables&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p><a href='http://www.google.com/search?hs=79m&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=vegetarian good left overs&btnG=Search'>http://www.google.com/search?hs=79m&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=vegetarian good left overs&btnG=Search</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Blizzard, So Last Century</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2005/04/30/blizzard-so-last-century/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2005 01:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is Blizzard charging for the World of Warcraft software? Or, barring the need to cover printing and shipping, why disallow me to use a copy I manage to acquire though alternative methods? How can the $40 they collect up front possibly compare the to recurring amount they would receive if they lowered the barriers [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is Blizzard charging for the <a href="http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/">World of Warcraft</a> software?  Or, barring the need to cover printing and shipping, why disallow me to use a copy I manage to acquire though alternative methods?  How can the $40 they collect up front possibly compare the to recurring amount they would receive if they lowered the barriers to participation?  Given that <a href="http://www.tooskatribe.com/">a troll pidgin</a> is quickly becoming a viable 2nd language in this house, I&#8217;d happily pay $12/month fee to have an account for the occasional play, and I&#8217;d probably go on paying even on off months, to hold on to my limited progress.  </p>

<p>How long would I let these low level monthly payments go on?  It would roll right into my <a href="http://laughingmeme.org/archives/002408.html">cost of being online</a> without making a ripple, and they&#8217;d have already made their money and more.   Dumb, or at least short sighted.</p>
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		<title>Money, Power, Sex, and Elephants</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2004/11/16/money-power-sex-and-elephants/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Picked up my copy of Lakoff&#8217;s Don&#8217;t Think of an Elephant this evening, and I noticed that it is published by Chelsea Green. Chelsea Green is a progressive publishing house in Vermont who use Eggplant&#8217;s MI CMS. A CMS based on the Riot::Core framework we built for our since stalled protest.net re-write. Small world. While [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picked up my copy of Lakoff&#8217;s <a href="http://www.chelseagreen.com/2004/items/elephant">Don&#8217;t Think of an Elephant</a> this evening, and I noticed that it is published by <a href="http://www.chelseagreen.com">Chelsea Green</a>. Chelsea Green is a progressive publishing house in Vermont who use <a href="http://eggplant.coop">Eggplant&#8217;s</a> <acronym title="Ministry of Information">MI</acronym> CMS.  A CMS based on the Riot::Core framework we built for our since stalled <a href="http://protest.net">protest.net</a> re-write.  Small world.  </p>

<p>While I was there I also noticed that they&#8217;re totally sold out of &#8220;Don&#8217;t Think&#8221;, so now would probably be a good time to buy your copy before your local bookstore also runs out. </p>
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		<title>Languid &#8211; a web service for identifying languages.</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2004/10/28/languid-a-web-service-for-identifying-languages/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[TextCat algo + unicode smarts + web service.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TextCat algo + unicode smarts + web service.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.idlewords.com/2004/10/languid.htm'>http://www.idlewords.com/2004/10/languid.htm</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>George Lakoff :: Ling 290L :: Language of Politics</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2004/10/01/george-lakoff-ling-290l-language-of-politics/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2004 20:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[blog following Lakoff&#8217;s Lang of Pol class at Berkeley]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blog following Lakoff&#8217;s Lang of Pol class at Berkeley</p>
<p><a href='http://www.zephoria.org/lakoff/'>http://www.zephoria.org/lakoff/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>QOTW:   Truth and Fiction</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2003/08/01/qotw-truth-and-fiction/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2003 18:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aidan: &#8220;Truth is stranger then fiction, but we&#8217;re doing out best.&#8221; On his conword/conlang community in general, and on Zompist&#8217;s non-logographic writing system of grimacing, stone carved faces.]]></description>
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<a href="http://sedesdraconis.com">Aidan</a>:  &#8220;Truth is stranger then fiction, but we&#8217;re doing out best.&#8221;
</p>

<p><p>
On his <a href="http://www.spinnoff.com/zbb/">conword/conlang community</a> in general, and on Zompist&#8217;s non-<a href="http://www.omniglot.com/writing/logographic.htm">logographic</a> <a href="http://www.zompist.com/elkwrite.htm">writing system of grimacing, stone carved faces.</a>
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		<title>Linguistic convergence?</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2003/02/01/linguistic-convergence/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2003 18:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve noticed an odd phenomena. When searching Google I consistently see results from projects I&#8217;m involved in, people I know, and of course, myself. A certain percentage of this can be written off to specialized interests. The overwhelming amount of search results I get which point to IMC archives is understandable, for example. What I [...]]]></description>
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I&#8217;ve noticed an odd phenomena.  When searching Google I consistently see results from projects I&#8217;m involved in, people I know, and of course, myself.
</p>

<p><p>
A certain percentage of this can be written off to specialized interests.  The overwhelming amount of search results I get which point to IMC archives is understandable, for example.
</p>
<p>
What I don&#8217;t understand is why a relatively generic query like &#8220;tar over ssh&#8221;, would return 
<a href="http://lists.fivecolleges.net/pipermail/fclug/2001-June/001307.html">a message</a> from the 
<a href="http://lug.hampshire.edu/">LUG</a> at my alma matter(which didn&#8217;t exist when I went there), in a thread between 2 people I know well.  Thats just odd.  And this happens a lot.  I&#8217;m going to start keeping track, but it happens all the time. (note: I&#8217;ve probably destroyed Google&#8217;s usefulness for searching for &#8220;tar over ssh&#8221; now by mentioning it)
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<p>
I don&#8217;t know that many people, a very small number in fact, and even if they all produce content hyperactively, shouldn&#8217;t they be drowned out in a sea content?  Whats going on?
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<p>
My thought is perhaps we&#8217;re seeing the effect of Google having a language based interface.  I search in English, and therefore I&#8217;m much more likely to get English results back.  Most of the people I know speak English.  On the Net however this doesn&#8217;t proscribe the field much.  I think perhaps it needs to be broken down beyond that, I don&#8217;t just speak English, I speak a vernacular informed by age, class, education, social environment, etc.  My word choices are a product of culture.  For example Mako and Josiah from the above thread have both had significant impacts on the Linux culture I was raised in.  Could even my 3 word query display a language bias?  If I was a product of a different linguistic micro-culture would I have said &#8220;pipe&#8221; instead of &#8220;over&#8221;, asked for &#8220;remote&#8221; instead of &#8220;ssh&#8221;, re-ordered the terms?
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<p>
And if perhaps Google was a taxonomy engine, building a search tree of structured data, and my queries were made in a precise, perhaps numerical, language, then would this convergence disappear?  Would it work nearly as well then?  A response from my culture after all brings a number of advantages, no one suggested using a tape drive instead, or buying F-Secure.
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<p>
<h3>Some Other Possibilities.</h3>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="http://sedesdraconis.com">Aidan</a> is fast to point out humans are expert pattern makers, and inclined to see patterns where none (of significance) exist.  Perhaps I only notice the occurrence when something unusual happens, and this convergence is a false pattern?
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<li>
That for all the millions of internet users, content is created by a mind blowingly small percentage.  That a given individual really can know a statistically significant percentage of the population.
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		<title>World Building Par Excellence</title>
		<link>http://laughingmeme.org/2002/10/02/world-building-par-excellence/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2002 05:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tolkien invented his world so as to have a sufficiently complex backdrop with which to play with linguistic theory. My brother has been running a similar project, &#8220;playing games with reality&#8217;s rules&#8221;, over at Sedes Draconis, a multi-civilization, biologically complex thought space. Most recently his Gnomish Culture Test was accepted to the pantheon of culture [...]]]></description>
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Tolkien invented his world so as to have a sufficiently complex backdrop with which to play with linguistic theory.  My brother has been running a similar project, &#8220;playing games with reality&#8217;s rules&#8221;, over at <a href="http://www.sedesdraconis.com">Sedes Draconis</a>, a multi-civilization, biologically complex thought space.  Most recently his <a href="http://www.sedesdraconis.com/index.cgi?Gnome/Test">Gnomish Culture Test</a> was accepted to the pantheon of <a href="http://www.zompist.com/amercult.html">culture tests</a> maintained by Zompist.
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<p><p>
<h3>Whats a culture test?</h3>
You can think of culture tests as being similar to those &#8220;Which X are you?&#8221; tests (e.g. 
<a href="http://laughingmeme.org/archives/000146.html#000146">&#8220;Which revolution are you?&#8221;</a>) but better thought out, and without the cute banner that you can hang on your website.  <a href="http://zompist.com">Zompist</a> wrote the first one in response to the claim, &#8220;There is no American culture&#8221;, and it took off from there.  Are you 
<a href="http://www.zompist.com/amercult.html">American</a>, <a href="http://www.zompist.com/canada.html">Canadian</a>, <a href="http://www.zompist.com/dutchcult.html">Dutch</a>, or <a href="http://www.zompist.com/vercult.html">Verdurian</a>?
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<p>
<h3>Culturally Biased Conceptions of Terrain</h3>
I&#8217;ve also been meaning to blog Aidan&#8217;s <a href="http://www.sedesdraconis.com/index.cgi?Unrelated/Civ">critique of Civilization&#8217;s terrain model</a>.  Civ is one of the most amazing computer games ever, and Civ III improved many of its basic assumptions, providing for more realism and flexibility.  However it has a few ideas which they haven&#8217;t gone back to re-examine over the years.  Like the very common Grassland terrain.<br />
<blockquote>
<em>
I think what is meant by Grassland is the kind of well-watered, productive terrain common in the American East, and Europe.  But.  Such terrain is not naturally occurring.
</em>
</blockquote>
Lots more good stuff, on grasslands, irrigation, rainfall, and the surprising scarcity of iron.  If you&#8217;ve ever played Civ, and even if you haven&#8217;t, interesting stuff.
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