Blog posts tagged "mailinglists"

Mailing Lists over RSS

August 28th, 2003

Next generation mailing lists are a subject close to my heart. Wedging our ongoing work and conversations into the confines of email has been convient over the years for leveraging an installed platform, but that doesn’t necessarily make it an appropiate fit.

A lot of work needs to be put into how to facilitate meaningful conversations that maintain state, how to make sure conversations are added to the institutional memory, how to do online descision making, etc, etc.

What is the upside?

One interesting thought expirement going on right now is, “what do we gain if we switch to publishing mailing lists via RSS”.(not to be confused with merely making lists available via RSS)

Chuq says, subscriptions are an artifact and non-essential, easily replaced as an authentication mechanism with challenge/response. (Something the W3C lists are already experimenting with, and some newsgroups like the comp.lang.perl.* have been doing for years.)

Brent riffs on password protected RSS as a replacement for email an idea that sounds very similar to the email over freenet ideas I heard a few years back.

Or maybe the whole idea of mailing lists is dead? (actually I disagree with that, lists create a space, a space has community, investment, and social norms, something a purely personal aggregated view can’t replicate)

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RSSifying the Mailing List, an update

February 24th, 2003

Dan Brickley just mentioned a patch to Mailman for producing RSS feeds for a list. While not the ideal feed described in my extended rant on the subject, its an incremental improvement, and much welcome.

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RSSifying the Mailing List

November 25th, 2002

Lattice asked me about resources for representing a mailing list as an RSS feed. Particularly, he was wanting to put together an alternative(post-email) interface to a Sympa mailing list, with an RSS aggregator for reading the list traffic, and the Sympa web interface for posting. I didn’t have any suggestions for Sympa, but noted that the script mmrss turns Mailman lists into RSS feeds.

A Thought

This inspired me to think about tackling the chronic lack of mail list archiving soltuions as multi-step problem. Perhaps if we could get the mailing lists into a suitable inbetween format, with all the assumptions exposed, and codified into XML, then perhaps the archivers simply focus on giving a decent presentation of the complex interactions of a mailing list. And having that format be compatible with the latest crop of desktop clients would allow people to build new and exciting ways of interacting with the lists.

So I compiled an overview of the problems, the challeges, and work that has gone before on building an RSS threading standard.

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