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		<title>rev=canonical: url shortening that doesn&#8217;t hurt the internet</title>
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		<title>URL Shortening Hinting</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve been playing with coding up a URL shortener at Flickr this week. A URL shortener that only shortens Flickr URLs. (and right now only shortens URLs to photo pages) Amazingly enough, this stodgiest of all conversations is a hot topic this week, with joshua&#8217;s url shorteners considered harmful post acting as something of a [...]]]></description>
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<p>We&#8217;ve been playing with coding up a URL shortener at <a href="http://flickr.com">Flickr</a> this week.  A URL shortener that only shortens Flickr URLs.  (and right now only shortens URLs to photo pages)</p>

<p>Amazingly enough, this stodgiest of all conversations is a hot topic this week, with joshua&#8217;s <a href="http://joshua.schachter.org/2009/04/on-url-shorteners.html">url shorteners considered harmful post</a> acting as something of a catalyst.  Though the <a href="http://blog.digg.com/?p=591">slick looking working on DiggBar</a> has to be on folks mind.</p>

<p>Meanwhile I was curious if there <a href="http://twitter.com/kellan/status/1448297080">a proposed rel=&#8221;alternate&#8221; syntax floating around for sites that run their own URL shortener?</a>.  I thought <a href="http://scripting.com">Dave</a> posted one as part of his call for sites to run their owner shorteners, but I can&#8217;t find any evidence that this is correct memory.</p>

<p><a href="http://epeus.blogspot.com/">Kevin Marks</a> suggested <a href="http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2009/02/specify-your-canonical.html">rel=&#8221;canonical&#8221;</a> and when I said that was the opposite of what I wanted replied <a href="http://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/1448424167">rev=&#8221;canonical&#8221; is by definition the opposite of rel=&#8221;canonical&#8221;, but in practice people don&#8217;t grok rev</a>.  I had never heard of &#8220;link rev&#8221;, but lose the idea of marking up pages with their canonical opposites.  But is that correct?</p>

<p><a href="http://www.decafbad.com/">Les Orchard</a> suggested the probably more practical <a href="http://twitter.com/lmorchard/status/1448338963">rel=&#8221;shorter-alternative&#8221;</a>, with Jon Williams refining to &#8220;<a href="http://twitter.com/WIZARDISHUNGRY/status/1448383800">rel=&#8221;shorter alternative&#8221; because IIRC rel values are like CSS classes</a>&#8220;.</p>

<p>All of this implicitly based on the Mark&#8217;s <a href="http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/05/30/rss_autodiscovery">work on RSS auto-discovery</a>.</p>

<p>I realize this probably reads like a blow by blow description of watching paint dry.</p>

<p>But I&#8217;d like to pretend we&#8217;ve got some momentum here, maybe we could solve all the world&#8217;s problems my dinner time. (or at least auto-discovering url shortening problems)</p>

<p><strong>update 2009/4/6:</strong> And I&#8217;ve published my <a href="http://revcanonical.appspot.com">rev=&#8221;canonical&#8221; URL shortening service</a></p>

<p>Photo by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chmurka/2524849923">chmurka</a>, just because.</p>
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