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		<title>Facebook: &#8220;our engineering team is relatively small — there are over one million users to every engineer&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Throw away line in the Facebook HipHop post gives us the Facebook RPE, 1mil vs Flickr&#8217;s 2.5mil.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throw away line in the Facebook HipHop post gives us the <a href="http://laughingmeme.org/2010/01/22/counting-things-and-rpes/">Facebook RPE</a>, 1mil vs Flickr&#8217;s 2.5mil.</p>
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		<title>Counting Things, and RPEs</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On an unrelated email thread this morning I got to thinking about how I quantify the Flickr engineering team, and counting things in general. Depending on how I&#8217;m counting I tend to place the Flickr engineering team at ~20 people. In that group I include everyone on our team who writes code (including HTML, CSS, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/siliconmonkey/3371542499/" title="306 Million And Counting by siliconmonkey, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3606/3371542499_420680b533.jpg" width="500" height="338" alt="306 Million And Counting" /></a></p>

<p>On an unrelated email thread this morning I got to thinking about how I quantify the <a href="http://flickr.com/about/">Flickr engineering team</a>, and counting things in general.</p>

<p>Depending on how I&#8217;m counting I tend to place the Flickr engineering team at ~20 people.  In that group I include everyone on our team who writes code (including HTML, CSS, Javascript, PHP, Java, Perl, Python, C, C++, XUL, or Objective-C).  Additionally I include our operations team (aka sysadmins aka &#8220;service engineering&#8221;), our &#8220;tech support&#8221; team (technical customer care/qa/researchers), and various folks with &#8220;manager&#8221; in their title.</p>

<p>(a more traditional count would probably put the Flickr engineering team at 5 application/backend engineers, 4 front-end engineers, and 4 technical manager types.)</p>

<p>Which got me thinking about a new metric, the RPE or &#8220;roughly per engineer&#8221;.  Mostly it&#8217;s a useful thought tool (for me) to think about what sorts of things scale up with economies of scale, and what doesn&#8217;t. Here are a couple of quick RPE metrics I pulled tonight.</p>

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<li>We&#8217;ve got roughly 2.5 million Flickr members per engineer.</li>
<li>Roughly <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/">200 million photos</a> per engineer.</li>
<li>28 user facing pages. </li>
<li>23 administrative pages.</li>
<li>20 <a href="http://flickr.com/services/api">API methods</a>, though only 7.5 public API methods.</li>
<li>80 API calls per second.</li>
<li>250 CPUs.</li>
<li>850 <a href="http://code.flickr.com/#foot-search">annual deploys</a>.</li>
<li>16 <a href="http://code.flickr.com/blog/2009/12/02/flipping-out/">feature flags</a>.</li>
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<p>Photo from <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/siliconmonkey/">siliconmonkey</a></p>
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